Comments on: Is Jack Roush a Snake? http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/is-jack-roush-a-snake A Member of the Thunder Lounge Network Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:22:46 +0000 http://thunderlounge.com/?v=2.6 By: Marc http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/is-jack-roush-a-snake#comment-1736 Marc Sat, 23 Dec 2006 20:08:29 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2006/12/22/is-jack-roush-a-snake/#comment-1736 Apparently not. But if it makes you feel better to [mis]label someone as a "racist" based on a single episode that was clearly directed at a company and not an individual be my guest. Apparently not.

But if it makes you feel better to [mis]label someone as a “racist” based on a single episode that was clearly directed at a company and not an individual be my guest.

]]> By: Renee http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/is-jack-roush-a-snake#comment-1735 Renee Sat, 23 Dec 2006 19:20:00 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2006/12/22/is-jack-roush-a-snake/#comment-1735 Marc, I was born in Florida and have lived in South Carolina and Alabama. I KNOW what racist is Marc, I was born in Florida and have lived in South Carolina and Alabama. I KNOW what racist is

]]> By: Marc http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/is-jack-roush-a-snake#comment-1734 Marc Sat, 23 Dec 2006 12:38:54 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2006/12/22/is-jack-roush-a-snake/#comment-1734 Geesh calm down and read what I wrote. See anything that condones Roush's alleged actions? Fact is I noted it was unfortunate many people in the U.S. had the same attitude. You've let your animosity for Jack send you down a misguided path. Not to mention not knowing what the <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racist" rel="nofollow">definition</a> of racist is.<blockquote>rac Geesh calm down and read what I wrote. See anything that condones Roush’s alleged actions?

Fact is I noted it was unfortunate many people in the U.S. had the same attitude. You’ve let your animosity for Jack send you down a misguided path.

Not to mention not knowing what the definition of racist is.

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]]> By: Renee http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/is-jack-roush-a-snake#comment-1733 Renee Sat, 23 Dec 2006 06:52:21 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2006/12/22/is-jack-roush-a-snake/#comment-1733 oh, and yes that thread on Speed forums was me as well. As you can tell though, Jack DID do that, and in ALOT of people's eyes, that was racist no matter how you want to spin it. oh, and yes that thread on Speed forums was me as well. As you can tell though, Jack DID do that, and in ALOT of people’s eyes, that was racist no matter how you want to spin it.

]]> By: Renee http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/is-jack-roush-a-snake#comment-1732 Renee Sat, 23 Dec 2006 06:51:15 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2006/12/22/is-jack-roush-a-snake/#comment-1732 So apparently you think it's OK for a man who is supposed to be respected and running a business to act like a moron just because someone drove a different make vehicle to work? Why couldn't he just tell him "I don't appreciate that Nissan being here" or something with more tact? Oh yeah, that's right, Roush isn't about tact, he's about being scared of Toyota taking his domination. Poor Jack...whaaaaaaaaa. He needs his diaper changed. Call it what you want, but when you make comments and do stupid things like that, it's racist no matter how you slice it. So apparently you think it’s OK for a man who is supposed to be respected and running a business to act like a moron just because someone drove a different make vehicle to work?
Why couldn’t he just tell him “I don’t appreciate that Nissan being here” or something with more tact? Oh yeah, that’s right, Roush isn’t about tact, he’s about being scared of Toyota taking his domination. Poor Jack…whaaaaaaaaa. He needs his diaper changed. Call it what you want, but when you make comments and do stupid things like that, it’s racist no matter how you slice it.

]]> By: Marc http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/is-jack-roush-a-snake#comment-1731 Marc Sat, 23 Dec 2006 06:28:29 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2006/12/22/is-jack-roush-a-snake/#comment-1731 Renee, your incorrect on both counts. While there wouldn't be a link to the ref you provide there is one to a <a href="http://insider.speedtv.com/viewtopic.php?t=136040&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=36&sid=f22251898f27373a43ab0ffe165ff442" rel="nofollow">SpeedTV Forum</a> that I'm willing to bet starts off with you commenting on the subject of a Yen payment. Based on that I would agree he apparently did say what you claim. However, you made the charge he was a racist. Assuming what he said and did is fact that would make him xenophobic, not a racist. Not the best of things to be, and unfortunately all to common by too many in the US, but considering his long standing relationship with Ford it's obvious why he would take the stand he did. Renee, your incorrect on both counts.

While there wouldn’t be a link to the ref you provide there is one to a SpeedTV Forum that I’m willing to bet starts off with you commenting on the subject of a Yen payment.

Based on that I would agree he apparently did say what you claim.

However, you made the charge he was a racist. Assuming what he said and did is fact that would make him xenophobic, not a racist.

Not the best of things to be, and unfortunately all to common by too many in the US, but considering his long standing relationship with Ford it’s obvious why he would take the stand he did.

]]> By: Renee http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/is-jack-roush-a-snake#comment-1730 Renee Sat, 23 Dec 2006 02:56:57 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2006/12/22/is-jack-roush-a-snake/#comment-1730 Marc, on NASCAR RACEDAY, Jack Roush told Wendy Venturini about how he paid a worker in Yen when he saw the guy's Nissan pickup in their lot. Told him if he wanted to drive a foreign car he'll be paid that way too. So there's no link I can provide, just the story Jack himself relayed on tv. Sure Jack has many minorities working for him. They have laws that require it. If not, I'd doubt he would have any. Marc, on NASCAR RACEDAY, Jack Roush told Wendy Venturini about how he paid a worker in Yen when he saw the guy’s Nissan pickup in their lot. Told him if he wanted to drive a foreign car he’ll be paid that way too. So there’s no link I can provide, just the story Jack himself relayed on tv.

Sure Jack has many minorities working for him. They have laws that require it. If not, I’d doubt he would have any.

]]> By: Marc http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/is-jack-roush-a-snake#comment-1729 Marc Fri, 22 Dec 2006 20:37:11 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2006/12/22/is-jack-roush-a-snake/#comment-1729 Renee, wow. You'll have to provide a link and quotes to anything Jack has said the mark him as a racist in your mind. Growing up within 2 miles of Jacks operation in Livonia Mi I can personally atest to the fact many minorities are and have been employed there. If he is it hasn't displayed itself in his employment practices. As for Borland/Carter, you probably know more than I about any bad blood and the back story. However Roush most definitely had something to do with the story. No one else signed Carter when the time was right. Jack did and time has proved to some extent the Toyota's entry intoi Cup has had an effect of saleries paid to drivers and crewmen. Renee, wow. You’ll have to provide a link and quotes to anything Jack has said the mark him as a racist in your mind.

Growing up within 2 miles of Jacks operation in Livonia Mi I can personally atest to the fact many minorities are and have been employed there. If he is it hasn’t displayed itself in his employment practices.

As for Borland/Carter, you probably know more than I about any bad blood and the back story. However Roush most definitely had something to do with the story.

No one else signed Carter when the time was right. Jack did and time has proved to some extent the Toyota’s entry intoi Cup has had an effect of saleries paid to drivers and crewmen.

]]> By: Renee http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/is-jack-roush-a-snake#comment-1728 Renee Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:06:42 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2006/12/22/is-jack-roush-a-snake/#comment-1728 Yes Jack sure is a snake. He's afraid Toyota will take the dominance he once enjoyed in Cup racing and he's an admitted racist by his own mouth. As for Larry Carter leaving MWR, had nothing to do with Roush. It had to do with some kind of feud between Carter and Matt Borland, who was named Dale Jarrett's crew chief at MWR. Alot of us are thinking that Carter got mad because he got "stuck" with the rookie while Borland got the past champ DJ. Thing is, DJ wanted someone "like Borland" but Michael & Ty went out and got Borland. Obviously they didn't know how much bad blood there was between those two. Yes Jack sure is a snake. He’s afraid Toyota will take the dominance he once enjoyed in Cup racing and he’s an admitted racist by his own mouth.

As for Larry Carter leaving MWR, had nothing to do with Roush. It had to do with some kind of feud between Carter and Matt Borland, who was named Dale Jarrett’s crew chief at MWR. Alot of us are thinking that Carter got mad because he got “stuck” with the rookie while Borland got the past champ DJ. Thing is, DJ wanted someone “like Borland” but Michael & Ty went out and got Borland. Obviously they didn’t know how much bad blood there was between those two.

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