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		<title>By: peterg</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/just-shut-the-hell-up-puh-lease#comment-1368</link>
		<dc:creator>peterg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 03:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry guys, Turkey won't be dropped over this. There is no comparision with the "extra" Spanish round of 97. That had everything to do with politics, Ferrari &#38; a desire by Bernie to string out the champoinship &#38; have a down to the wire finale.

If I recall, the Jerez round was not even on the calandar at the start of 97, but the moment Ferrari came within sniffing distance of it's first WDC title in decades the extention to the schedule was made. Jerez hadn't hosted a round in years because it was considered (&#38; is) a sub-standard facility,which is why it does not get a round these days, not withstanding Barcelona's place.If that stunt by the Mayor (&#38; the local police chief) had not occurred Jerez would have been punted anyway, Barcelona was to be te nominated venue for future events.

The Turks will get a quiet slap on the wrist &#38; F1 will be there in 07.my take any way :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry guys, Turkey won&#8217;t be dropped over this. There is no comparision with the &#8220;extra&#8221; Spanish round of 97. That had everything to do with politics, Ferrari &amp; a desire by Bernie to string out the champoinship &amp; have a down to the wire finale.</p>
<p>If I recall, the Jerez round was not even on the calandar at the start of 97, but the moment Ferrari came within sniffing distance of it&#8217;s first WDC title in decades the extention to the schedule was made. Jerez hadn&#8217;t hosted a round in years because it was considered (&amp; is) a sub-standard facility,which is why it does not get a round these days, not withstanding Barcelona&#8217;s place.If that stunt by the Mayor (&amp; the local police chief) had not occurred Jerez would have been punted anyway, Barcelona was to be te nominated venue for future events.</p>
<p>The Turks will get a quiet slap on the wrist &amp; F1 will be there in 07.my take any way <img src='http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/just-shut-the-hell-up-puh-lease#comment-1367</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 22:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so what's wrong with two week old bird? My cat has never complained! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so what&#8217;s wrong with two week old bird? My cat has never complained! <img src='http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/just-shut-the-hell-up-puh-lease#comment-1366</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 20:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Turkey will be pushed into the trash like a two week old bird after thanksgiving.

From grandprix.com:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Messing about with F1 podium ceremonies is a dangerous business. In 1997 the mayor of Jerez forced his way on to the podium and presented a trophy he was not supposed to present. The FIA reacted by cancelling the event and F1 has never returned to Jerez.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;The Turks are likely to be in even more trouble than that because their gesture was calculated and a clear political manipulation of the situation. If unpunished it could undermine the FIA's political independence - and the FIA World Council is unlikely to stand for that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Like I stated earlier, dead meat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turkey will be pushed into the trash like a two week old bird after thanksgiving.</p>
<p>From grandprix.com:</p>
<blockquote><p>Messing about with F1 podium ceremonies is a dangerous business. In 1997 the mayor of Jerez forced his way on to the podium and presented a trophy he was not supposed to present. The FIA reacted by cancelling the event and F1 has never returned to Jerez.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>The Turks are likely to be in even more trouble than that because their gesture was calculated and a clear political manipulation of the situation. If unpunished it could undermine the FIA&#8217;s political independence - and the FIA World Council is unlikely to stand for that.</p></blockquote>
<p>Like I stated earlier, dead meat.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/just-shut-the-hell-up-puh-lease#comment-1365</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the idiot promoters did at the turkish GP is unforgiveable and may prove fatal. A damn shame considering the quality of the track.

I just read that the Jerez circuit was unceremoniously dumped from F1 competition when the Mayor turned a podium presentation into a political side show. They were dropped with the statement they would never host a GP event again-ever!

Of course the dollar investments and returns today are much higher so the fallout of canceling Turkey may be more difficult, but it wouldn't shock me if they were dropped. Especially due to any number of other locations looking for races.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the idiot promoters did at the turkish GP is unforgiveable and may prove fatal. A damn shame considering the quality of the track.</p>
<p>I just read that the Jerez circuit was unceremoniously dumped from F1 competition when the Mayor turned a podium presentation into a political side show. They were dropped with the statement they would never host a GP event again-ever!</p>
<p>Of course the dollar investments and returns today are much higher so the fallout of canceling Turkey may be more difficult, but it wouldn&#8217;t shock me if they were dropped. Especially due to any number of other locations looking for races.</p>
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		<title>By: peterg</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/just-shut-the-hell-up-puh-lease#comment-1364</link>
		<dc:creator>peterg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 05:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually considering the only people complaining are the Greeks (neither a host nation,sponsor,driver or huge target market) the whole thing will probably blow over.

Now back to protesting about Bono........where do I start. :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually considering the only people complaining are the Greeks (neither a host nation,sponsor,driver or huge target market) the whole thing will probably blow over.</p>
<p>Now back to protesting about Bono&#8230;&#8230;..where do I start. <img src='http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: peterg</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/just-shut-the-hell-up-puh-lease#comment-1363</link>
		<dc:creator>peterg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 00:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it's no secret he wanted a job at the European parliment.Although any political career in the U.K, in his younger days, was dead in the water with that surname. I'm conservative on some issues.............but his old man was a first class fuckwit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it&#8217;s no secret he wanted a job at the European parliment.Although any political career in the U.K, in his younger days, was dead in the water with that surname. I&#8217;m conservative on some issues&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.but his old man was a first class fuckwit.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max Mosley tread lightly on ANY issue? This is the global stage Max has been practising his entire miserable life for.

The chance to play REAL politics on a world stage will not be passed over. After an internal investigation by the intelligence gathering operatives of FIA, Max will spew some silly statement and offer a position paper on how to solve the Cypriot issue as well as ending the wars in Iraq, Israel, and solve all world problems. Let's have a GP race in Cyprus!!

I give him until Friday before the Italian GP at the latest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max Mosley tread lightly on ANY issue? This is the global stage Max has been practising his entire miserable life for.</p>
<p>The chance to play REAL politics on a world stage will not be passed over. After an internal investigation by the intelligence gathering operatives of FIA, Max will spew some silly statement and offer a position paper on how to solve the Cypriot issue as well as ending the wars in Iraq, Israel, and solve all world problems. Let&#8217;s have a GP race in Cyprus!!</p>
<p>I give him until Friday before the Italian GP at the latest.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/just-shut-the-hell-up-puh-lease#comment-1361</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 02:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please don't mention the name Bono around these parts!

I'm not sure where or who is attempting to paint this as a threat to Turkey holding another event, but the reality of finances seems to fall on the side of political hacks and not the FIA.

But obviously the FIA will have to tread lightly o the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t mention the name Bono around these parts!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure where or who is attempting to paint this as a threat to Turkey holding another event, but the reality of finances seems to fall on the side of political hacks and not the FIA.</p>
<p>But obviously the FIA will have to tread lightly o the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: peterg</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/just-shut-the-hell-up-puh-lease#comment-1360</link>
		<dc:creator>peterg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if Cyprus (or the Greek part) is going to complain about the Turkish government pulling stunts with title &#38; captions on the podium, throw the doors open &#38; let everybody complain. The Amenians have a legitimate grievance &#38; the Kurdish struggle makes the Cypriot invasion look like storm in a tea cup.

It's going to be a little bit difficult to go all politically correct on host nations when you consider China has a round - not exactly big on human rights - &#38; good old Mad Dr Mahtir of Malaysia is always on the podium, trophy in hand, at Sepang.

Bernie &#38; the sport need these new venues so the FIA will just have to be a fence sitter &#38; play a neutral role. When you think about it, could anything be worse than Bono being allowed in the paddock at Monaco?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if Cyprus (or the Greek part) is going to complain about the Turkish government pulling stunts with title &amp; captions on the podium, throw the doors open &amp; let everybody complain. The Amenians have a legitimate grievance &amp; the Kurdish struggle makes the Cypriot invasion look like storm in a tea cup.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s going to be a little bit difficult to go all politically correct on host nations when you consider China has a round - not exactly big on human rights - &amp; good old Mad Dr Mahtir of Malaysia is always on the podium, trophy in hand, at Sepang.</p>
<p>Bernie &amp; the sport need these new venues so the FIA will just have to be a fence sitter &amp; play a neutral role. When you think about it, could anything be worse than Bono being allowed in the paddock at Monaco?</p>
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