Comments on: NASCAR: I Call Age Discrimination! http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/nascar-i-call-age-discrimination A Member of the Thunder Lounge Network Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:57:21 +0000 http://thunderlounge.com/?v=2.6 By: Marc http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/nascar-i-call-age-discrimination#comment-3720 Marc Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:36:50 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2008/01/16/nascar-i-call-age-discrimination/#comment-3720 What's better George - dodging them on the highways and byways where they can crash and injure you and yours. Or watching the few, the very few, on TV that have in most cases "trained" for years to get into NASCAR? That aside, it appears this trial balloon is being popped rather quickly: Here's Helton's remarks on the matter:<blockquote> "But we're continuing to look at the new drivers that are coming along and we're also looking at how they mature and how they can handle the pressures of racing in our top division," Helton said. NASCAR is not close to making a decision about raising the minimum age requirements for the Sprint Cup Series, but it is something that is continually discussed. "It's not something that's been decided on, but it's just one of a lot of things that we talk about all the time," Helton said. "That's just something that's out there right now that people are eating it up."</blockquote>Eat it up they have. And this ain't gonna happen now or in the future. Period. What’s better George - dodging them on the highways and byways where they can crash and injure you and yours. Or watching the few, the very few, on TV that have in most cases “trained” for years to get into NASCAR?

That aside, it appears this trial balloon is being popped rather quickly: Here’s Helton’s remarks on the matter:

“But we’re continuing to look at the new drivers that are coming along and we’re also looking at how they mature and how they can handle the pressures of racing in our top division,” Helton said.
NASCAR is not close to making a decision about raising the minimum age requirements for the Sprint Cup Series, but it is something that is continually discussed.
“It’s not something that’s been decided on, but it’s just one of a lot of things that we talk about all the time,” Helton said. “That’s just something that’s out there right now that people are eating it up.”

Eat it up they have. And this ain’t gonna happen now or in the future. Period.

]]> By: george http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/nascar-i-call-age-discrimination#comment-3719 george Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:47:57 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2008/01/16/nascar-i-call-age-discrimination/#comment-3719 I'm tired of dodging the 18-21 year old NASCAR wannabees on my local highways and byways, I for one don't need to see them on TV as well. If parents are hanging their financial futures on their progeny "making" it in racing, it's their risk. Racing doesn't "owe" them an early entree to the sport. And it's the team owners fault for signing kids to development deals as well. Let 'em support 'em for another three years. I’m tired of dodging the 18-21 year old NASCAR wannabees on my local highways and byways, I for one don’t need to see them on TV as well.

If parents are hanging their financial futures on their progeny “making” it in racing, it’s their risk. Racing doesn’t “owe” them an early entree to the sport. And it’s the team owners fault for signing kids to development deals as well. Let ‘em support ‘em for another three years.

]]> By: Marc http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/nascar-i-call-age-discrimination#comment-3717 Marc Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:15:16 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2008/01/16/nascar-i-call-age-discrimination/#comment-3717 Lou makes sense, to a point. I would disagree with PCNA & Co. being that worried about loss of revenue because of "Buschwackers." From the accounts I've read both attendance and TV ratings (for what they're worth) in Busch were both up marginally last year. That aside, with the Pony Cars apparently being introduced in 2009 it gives the series a new and entirely different market, i.e. a potentially younger audience (if marketed correctly) AND the potential to draw away some of the "kids" that have stampeded the Formula D series. Darren... see the latest update I added to the post. Lou makes sense, to a point. I would disagree with PCNA & Co. being that worried about loss of revenue because of “Buschwackers.”

From the accounts I’ve read both attendance and TV ratings (for what they’re worth) in Busch were both up marginally last year.

That aside, with the Pony Cars apparently being introduced in 2009 it gives the series a new and entirely different market, i.e. a potentially younger audience (if marketed correctly) AND the potential to draw away some of the “kids” that have stampeded the Formula D series.

Darren… see the latest update I added to the post.

]]> By: Darren http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/nascar-i-call-age-discrimination#comment-3718 Darren Sun, 20 Jan 2008 02:38:28 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2008/01/16/nascar-i-call-age-discrimination/#comment-3718 The more I think about this it really does boil down to money. I've got to give Lou (who commented on my site) the nod into the true insight here. I'll just quote some tidbits from him: <blockquote>Another motive behind NASCAR The more I think about this it really does boil down to money. I’ve got to give Lou (who commented on my site) the nod into the true insight here.

I’ll just quote some tidbits from him:

Another motive behind NASCAR

]]> By: Marc http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/nascar-i-call-age-discrimination#comment-3716 Marc Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:47:22 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2008/01/16/nascar-i-call-age-discrimination/#comment-3716 Thanks Phastphil, I missed that. You can add to that list of "less mature than proven age" Robby Gordon after his stunt of "winning" a race he didn't. Thanks Phastphil, I missed that. You can add to that list of “less mature than proven age” Robby Gordon after his stunt of “winning” a race he didn’t.

]]> By: phastphil http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/nascar-i-call-age-discrimination#comment-3715 phastphil Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:17:58 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2008/01/16/nascar-i-call-age-discrimination/#comment-3715 Sorry I don't think my attempt at humor made the point that I wanted to make. I believe 18 is a reasonable age and beyond that qualifications for a NASCAR driver should be based on merit. Maturity is hard to quantify. Was Tony Stewart showing maturity when he ran Matt Kenseth down into the infield a few years back at Daytona? Or, did Kurt Busch deserve only a one race suspension when he nearly ran over one of Tony Stewart's crew in the pits after their little on track hissy fit? Sorry I don’t think my attempt at humor made the point that I wanted to make.
I believe 18 is a reasonable age and beyond that qualifications for a NASCAR driver should be based on merit.
Maturity is hard to quantify. Was Tony Stewart showing maturity when he ran Matt Kenseth down into the infield a few years back at Daytona? Or, did Kurt Busch deserve only a one race suspension when he nearly ran over one of Tony Stewart’s crew in the pits after their little on track hissy fit?

]]> By: phastphil http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/nascar-i-call-age-discrimination#comment-3714 phastphil Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:05:42 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2008/01/16/nascar-i-call-age-discrimination/#comment-3714 According to Webster.com sarcasm defined 1: a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain 2 a: a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b: the use or language of sarcasm According to Webster.com

sarcasm defined

1: a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
2 a: a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b: the use or language of sarcasm

]]> By: Marc http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/nascar-i-call-age-discrimination#comment-3713 Marc Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:22:13 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2008/01/16/nascar-i-call-age-discrimination/#comment-3713 Truth be told, I really don't care that much. But that depends on how NASCAR trys to sell this idea. If the all-out push is on keeping "kids" in NW of the NCTS to promote those series' I'm OK with it. If they play the "he's too immature" card, I don't buy it for a second. And if they try it the tried and true arguement of "if he's old enough to fight for his country" he's old enough to drive Sprint Cup cars will show up with some degree of validity. Truth be told, I really don’t care that much. But that depends on how NASCAR trys to sell this idea. If the all-out push is on keeping “kids” in NW of the NCTS to promote those series’ I’m OK with it.

If they play the “he’s too immature” card, I don’t buy it for a second. And if they try it the tried and true arguement of “if he’s old enough to fight for his country” he’s old enough to drive Sprint Cup cars will show up with some degree of validity.

]]> By: Vroom http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/nascar-i-call-age-discrimination#comment-3712 Vroom Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:07:26 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2008/01/16/nascar-i-call-age-discrimination/#comment-3712 18 works for me...but then again, I don't remember 18. 18 works for me…but then again, I don’t remember 18.

]]> By: Marc http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/nascar-i-call-age-discrimination#comment-3711 Marc Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:41:49 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2008/01/16/nascar-i-call-age-discrimination/#comment-3711 Sorry phastphil, I don't buy it and the stats over the last few years provide all the cover I need. Sorry phastphil, I don’t buy it and the stats over the last few years provide all the cover I need.

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