Comments on: Razorback Dreams of NASCAR http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/razorback-dreams-of-nascar A Member of the Thunder Lounge Network Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:55:56 +0000 http://thunderlounge.com/?v=2.6 By: Clance McClannahan http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/razorback-dreams-of-nascar#comment-2074 Clance McClannahan Fri, 02 Mar 2007 01:40:49 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2007/02/27/razorback-dreams-of-nascar/#comment-2074 A Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year's race would be nice. I would watch. I would love 2 Vegas races. Honestly and seriously now...I would be ticked if they cut out one of the Cali races. It is an East / West thing. I want the option to be able to travel there should I choose too. The track activities are a blast! They always do a good job with on and off track doings. They just need to shorten the race a bit. Then the race would be fun for the fans who are watching it on TV too. A Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year’s race would be nice. I would watch. I would love 2 Vegas races.
Honestly and seriously now…I would be ticked if they cut out one of the Cali races. It is an East / West thing. I want the option to be able to travel there should I choose too. The track activities are a blast! They always do a good job with on and off track doings. They just need to shorten the race a bit. Then the race would be fun for the fans who are watching it on TV too.

]]> By: George http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/razorback-dreams-of-nascar#comment-2073 George Wed, 28 Feb 2007 05:19:40 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2007/02/27/razorback-dreams-of-nascar/#comment-2073 Please Marc, Holidays are reserved for dead legends; Dale seniors and Big Bill's birthdays. Please Marc, Holidays are reserved for dead legends; Dale seniors and Big Bill’s birthdays.

]]> By: Marc http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/razorback-dreams-of-nascar#comment-2072 Marc Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:37:08 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2007/02/27/razorback-dreams-of-nascar/#comment-2072 What two weeks would you suggest George? Presidents Day weekend (Brian France of course not the "other presidents.") and the closest weekend to Richard Petty's birthday? What two weeks would you suggest George?

Presidents Day weekend (Brian France of course not the “other presidents.”) and the closest weekend to Richard Petty’s birthday?

]]> By: George http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/razorback-dreams-of-nascar#comment-2071 George Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:16:47 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2007/02/27/razorback-dreams-of-nascar/#comment-2071 What's wrong with you two? With only 36 weekends committed, that leaves an additional 14 weekends available, allowing 2 weeks off during the year. Too muuch strain on the drivers you say? The WWF-on-Wheels can then go to tag team events, where they switch drivers in and out of the car. Same with crew members. I tell ya, the lack of vision by this site and it's participants is becoming disturbing! What’s wrong with you two? With only 36 weekends committed, that leaves an additional 14 weekends available, allowing 2 weeks off during the year.

Too muuch strain on the drivers you say? The WWF-on-Wheels can then go to tag team events, where they switch drivers in and out of the car. Same with crew members.

I tell ya, the lack of vision by this site and it’s participants is becoming disturbing!

]]> By: Marc http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/razorback-dreams-of-nascar#comment-2070 Marc Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:39:21 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2007/02/27/razorback-dreams-of-nascar/#comment-2070 You forgot one Luke, New Jersey has plans also. I take a different view of Fontana. Crowd size isn't relevant in the sense butts in the seats isn't why NASCAR is there. National marketing is. Without total east-west, north-south coverage venue wise NASCAR can't sell it self as it does now to national companies. And then there is the population. San Diego couldn't sell out World Series tickets for Christ sakes! Of all the Cali sports teams only the Raiders, 49ers and Dodgers can claim to have loyal fan bases. All the rest you're more likely to see more t-shirts and hats of the opposing teams in the stands than the home teams. All that said, Fontana needs to do a major track reconfiguration. I'd suggest cutting the length by 1/2/ to 3/4's of a mile, progress banking and making turns at one end a different radius than the other like Darlington. You forgot one Luke, New Jersey has plans also.

I take a different view of Fontana. Crowd size isn’t relevant in the sense butts in the seats isn’t why NASCAR is there.

National marketing is. Without total east-west, north-south coverage venue wise NASCAR can’t sell it self as it does now to national companies.

And then there is the population. San Diego couldn’t sell out World Series tickets for Christ sakes!

Of all the Cali sports teams only the Raiders, 49ers and Dodgers can claim to have loyal fan bases. All the rest you’re more likely to see more t-shirts and hats of the opposing teams in the stands than the home teams.

All that said, Fontana needs to do a major track reconfiguration. I’d suggest cutting the length by 1/2/ to 3/4’s of a mile, progress banking and making turns at one end a different radius than the other like Darlington.

]]> By: Luke http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/razorback-dreams-of-nascar#comment-2069 Luke Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:47:00 +0000 http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/2007/02/27/razorback-dreams-of-nascar/#comment-2069 Well, the "I want a date" saga continues. There's that town out in CA that wants to do it too. Guess they can't take the hint from attendance at the snoozefests in Fontana. Denver is looking to build something like Kansas, there's the "Auburn tie in" out west, Jr's little project in 'bama, and who knows what else at this moment other than the "I'm suing crap in Kentucky". Oh yeah, Bruton Smith is still ready to buy a track and shut it down to give Vegas a second date. There just isn't any room, even with the NY Fiasco coming to an abrupt end. I understand the reaching into markets philosophy, but sometime you got to face the music and know they don't want you. ALA: Fontana and it's (yet again) horrid crowd. Until NASCAR faces the fact that it's the racing that's got them where they are now, and again focuses on the racing first, it's going to continue to be a struggle. If ISC gets their Seattle track and NY (or the replacement area) track built, who's losing dates? Two tracks will lose a date each at best if they have 2, or there may be a track popped off completely, and it'll be from an ISC track unless they go the Bruton route and buy out an independent track owner. If anyone doesn't deserve a second date, it's Fontana. But I bet it isn't high on the list to consider. Well, the “I want a date” saga continues. There’s that town out in CA that wants to do it too. Guess they can’t take the hint from attendance at the snoozefests in Fontana.

Denver is looking to build something like Kansas, there’s the “Auburn tie in” out west, Jr’s little project in ‘bama, and who knows what else at this moment other than the “I’m suing crap in Kentucky”. Oh yeah, Bruton Smith is still ready to buy a track and shut it down to give Vegas a second date.

There just isn’t any room, even with the NY Fiasco coming to an abrupt end.

I understand the reaching into markets philosophy, but sometime you got to face the music and know they don’t want you. ALA: Fontana and it’s (yet again) horrid crowd.

Until NASCAR faces the fact that it’s the racing that’s got them where they are now, and again focuses on the racing first, it’s going to continue to be a struggle.

If ISC gets their Seattle track and NY (or the replacement area) track built, who’s losing dates? Two tracks will lose a date each at best if they have 2, or there may be a track popped off completely, and it’ll be from an ISC track unless they go the Bruton route and buy out an independent track owner.

If anyone doesn’t deserve a second date, it’s Fontana. But I bet it isn’t high on the list to consider.

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