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	<title>Comments on: Ricky Craven Rebuts a Canadian Scribe</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/ricky-craven-rebuts-a-canadian-scribe#comment-5034</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 07:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, DW isn't, hasn't ever been and wasn't hired as a journalist.

He's a booth-bobble head just as all the rest that reside in press boxes in every sport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, DW isn&#8217;t, hasn&#8217;t ever been and wasn&#8217;t hired as a journalist.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s a booth-bobble head just as all the rest that reside in press boxes in every sport.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/ricky-craven-rebuts-a-canadian-scribe#comment-5032</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 02:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Marc, you are right in theory.  Unfortunately when it comes to news be it sports, politics, anything, it's more about being the story than it is reporting the story.  I mean DW is supposedly a "journalist" or commentator in effect.  He cannot go 100 laps without it being about him.  If the NASCAR media reports with no slant, the last person who did that was Chris Economaki.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Marc, you are right in theory.  Unfortunately when it comes to news be it sports, politics, anything, it&#8217;s more about being the story than it is reporting the story.  I mean DW is supposedly a &#8220;journalist&#8221; or commentator in effect.  He cannot go 100 laps without it being about him.  If the NASCAR media reports with no slant, the last person who did that was Chris Economaki.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/ricky-craven-rebuts-a-canadian-scribe#comment-5018</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 01:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;"Marc, it’s the media’s job, Humpy Wheeler’s job, etc. to fan the flames and create controversy when there isn’t any."&lt;/strong&gt;

No, not even close. It's Humpy's job not the medias. The medias job is to report the news not make it or slant it in any way.

By writing, or allowing copy desk headline writers to use headlines such as "Busch is Public Enemy #1" that's exactly what they do, make news not report it.

Writing horseshit like that is exactly why the major newspapers in the country are all losing readership faster than Paris lost her virginity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>&#8220;Marc, it’s the media’s job, Humpy Wheeler’s job, etc. to fan the flames and create controversy when there isn’t any.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>No, not even close. It&#8217;s Humpy&#8217;s job not the medias. The medias job is to report the news not make it or slant it in any way.</p>
<p>By writing, or allowing copy desk headline writers to use headlines such as &#8220;Busch is Public Enemy #1&#8243; that&#8217;s exactly what they do, make news not report it.</p>
<p>Writing horseshit like that is exactly why the major newspapers in the country are all losing readership faster than Paris lost her virginity.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/ricky-craven-rebuts-a-canadian-scribe#comment-5017</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 00:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately Craven, like Steve Park, is considered damaged goods.  I thought he'd have a chance to move up in the Roush camp, but it never materialized.  It seemed to me as if he was nothing more than a stop gap to get Carl Edwards more seasoning.  Too bad as he has had 2 of the more dramatic wins in NASCAR Winston Cup history, at Darlington and at Martinsville where he gamely fought off Dale Jarrett to win the clock.  I have always been a big fan of his as he was one of the most approachable drivers back in the pre Fox days.  He has very good insight on his Sirius show with John Kernan.  

Marc, it's the media's job, Humpy Wheeler's job, etc. to fan the flames and create controversy when there isn't any.  Remember DW and Tony Stewart's "feud" a few years back?  Bottom line, in NASCAR, the sponsors and the money rule so the days of Donnie Allison and Cale Yarborough or most recent Geoff Bodine and Dale Earnhardt are long gone.  Sure there have been skirmishes like Rudd-Harvick, Kurt Busch- Jimmy Spencer, DJ-Jeff Gordon, but the stakes are way too high now for long term feuds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately Craven, like Steve Park, is considered damaged goods.  I thought he&#8217;d have a chance to move up in the Roush camp, but it never materialized.  It seemed to me as if he was nothing more than a stop gap to get Carl Edwards more seasoning.  Too bad as he has had 2 of the more dramatic wins in NASCAR Winston Cup history, at Darlington and at Martinsville where he gamely fought off Dale Jarrett to win the clock.  I have always been a big fan of his as he was one of the most approachable drivers back in the pre Fox days.  He has very good insight on his Sirius show with John Kernan.  </p>
<p>Marc, it&#8217;s the media&#8217;s job, Humpy Wheeler&#8217;s job, etc. to fan the flames and create controversy when there isn&#8217;t any.  Remember DW and Tony Stewart&#8217;s &#8220;feud&#8221; a few years back?  Bottom line, in NASCAR, the sponsors and the money rule so the days of Donnie Allison and Cale Yarborough or most recent Geoff Bodine and Dale Earnhardt are long gone.  Sure there have been skirmishes like Rudd-Harvick, Kurt Busch- Jimmy Spencer, DJ-Jeff Gordon, but the stakes are way too high now for long term feuds.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Zaegel</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/ricky-craven-rebuts-a-canadian-scribe#comment-4989</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Zaegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 03:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually like Craven and would love to see him back in the Cup ... it was simply pointing out that he's virtually disappeared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually like Craven and would love to see him back in the Cup &#8230; it was simply pointing out that he&#8217;s virtually disappeared.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Short and very convenient memories Okla.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Short and very convenient memories Okla.</p>
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		<title>By: okla21fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>okla21fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 15:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How soon the Junior Nations forgets the 'Kansas incident' from last year's chase. 

That was a much more blatant punt then we saw last Saturday night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How soon the Junior Nations forgets the &#8216;Kansas incident&#8217; from last year&#8217;s chase. </p>
<p>That was a much more blatant punt then we saw last Saturday night.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 08:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meeshbeer, McDonald is far from being a "frencie" so that doesn't hold any water with me.

Secondly, I've read his articles for a number of years and would agree he's generally one of the better ones around.

But he jumped the shark on this one and true or not it would appear as if some bias slipped into his writing. In fact before I hit publish I checked back on his history.

Funny thing, I couldn't find a word written when Dale Jr. dumped Busch last Oct that effectively eliminated him from the Chase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meeshbeer, McDonald is far from being a &#8220;frencie&#8221; so that doesn&#8217;t hold any water with me.</p>
<p>Secondly, I&#8217;ve read his articles for a number of years and would agree he&#8217;s generally one of the better ones around.</p>
<p>But he jumped the shark on this one and true or not it would appear as if some bias slipped into his writing. In fact before I hit publish I checked back on his history.</p>
<p>Funny thing, I couldn&#8217;t find a word written when Dale Jr. dumped Busch last Oct that effectively eliminated him from the Chase.</p>
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		<title>By: Meeshbeer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meeshbeer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 01:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL... Damn those French Canadians! Stone them all! ;) 

My own French Canadian heritage and Torontonian bias aside, Norris McDonald is an incredibly knowledgeable motorsports writer, with great respect drivers and all forms of racing. I have many times disagreed with him in years gone by for his harsh criticism of Champ Car (this was before my own eyes were opened) but I am also very aware that he uses the very limited space he is given to report on motorsports, wisely. (you would be shocked by the shrinking coverage up here mandated by the bosses) 

As for the name thing, well, ya, that is something we frenchies let get under our skin. What can I say. 
If it's any consolation it pisses me off to no end when ANYbodies name is bastardized to the point of being unrecognizable. (and as a Champ Car fan, I heard some pretty horrifying versions of our drivers names! Ironically the WORST offender was the Nascar track announcer in Vegas when we doubled-down in the desert with the Trucks)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL&#8230; Damn those French Canadians! Stone them all! <img src='http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My own French Canadian heritage and Torontonian bias aside, Norris McDonald is an incredibly knowledgeable motorsports writer, with great respect drivers and all forms of racing. I have many times disagreed with him in years gone by for his harsh criticism of Champ Car (this was before my own eyes were opened) but I am also very aware that he uses the very limited space he is given to report on motorsports, wisely. (you would be shocked by the shrinking coverage up here mandated by the bosses) </p>
<p>As for the name thing, well, ya, that is something we frenchies let get under our skin. What can I say.<br />
If it&#8217;s any consolation it pisses me off to no end when ANYbodies name is bastardized to the point of being unrecognizable. (and as a Champ Car fan, I heard some pretty horrifying versions of our drivers names! Ironically the WORST offender was the Nascar track announcer in Vegas when we doubled-down in the desert with the Trucks)</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/ricky-craven-rebuts-a-canadian-scribe#comment-4969</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 00:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can say whatever you want, but he, just like you and me is in the "news" as much or more than we are with our respective blogs.

Regardless what he did say comes from experience neither of us or some far away scribe in Canada has. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can say whatever you want, but he, just like you and me is in the &#8220;news&#8221; as much or more than we are with our respective blogs.</p>
<p>Regardless what he did say comes from experience neither of us or some far away scribe in Canada has.</p>
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