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	<title>Comments on: While Rome Burns&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Richard Matthias</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/while-rome-burns#comment-3094</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Matthias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>peterg (whoever that is):-

I well aware of the origin of the A1GP chassis. I'm going on what the drivers have reported about how the car is to drive. They say that it's heavy and very low on grip compared to F3 and GP2 cars. Remember that F3000 wasn't very popular with the drivers either and was wound up when F1 teams started ignoring it and picking drivers from major F3 series instead. GP2 might look comparable on stats, but it's in a completely different league on track.

As for driver selection - I mostly agree with what you say about it being a chance to show off young drivers from a particular country, certainly for smaller nations or those without a history of motorsport like Indonesia. But for European countries that have a multitude of series for young drivers to race in - I don't see anyone campaigning to get their country's A1GP seat. And audiences are already on the decline after the newness of Season 1. Whatever the reasons for why A1GP was established, I'm suggesting that it should regard itself as something more than just another feeder series.</description>
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<p>I well aware of the origin of the A1GP chassis. I&#8217;m going on what the drivers have reported about how the car is to drive. They say that it&#8217;s heavy and very low on grip compared to F3 and GP2 cars. Remember that F3000 wasn&#8217;t very popular with the drivers either and was wound up when F1 teams started ignoring it and picking drivers from major F3 series instead. GP2 might look comparable on stats, but it&#8217;s in a completely different league on track.</p>
<p>As for driver selection - I mostly agree with what you say about it being a chance to show off young drivers from a particular country, certainly for smaller nations or those without a history of motorsport like Indonesia. But for European countries that have a multitude of series for young drivers to race in - I don&#8217;t see anyone campaigning to get their country&#8217;s A1GP seat. And audiences are already on the decline after the newness of Season 1. Whatever the reasons for why A1GP was established, I&#8217;m suggesting that it should regard itself as something more than just another feeder series.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/while-rome-burns#comment-3093</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George - Tivo?

HDTV?

DLP? What to hell are you talking about? I'm lucky to get anything in "color."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George - Tivo?</p>
<p>HDTV?</p>
<p>DLP? What to hell are you talking about? I&#8217;m lucky to get anything in &#8220;color.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/while-rome-burns#comment-3092</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummmm... twice the national debt of Lichtenstien?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummmm&#8230; twice the national debt of Lichtenstien?</p>
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		<title>By: peterg</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/while-rome-burns#comment-3091</link>
		<dc:creator>peterg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 06:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, I wonder how much Ron is paying George????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, I wonder how much Ron is paying George????</p>
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		<title>By: peterg</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/while-rome-burns#comment-3090</link>
		<dc:creator>peterg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 06:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes but I was careful not to offend a new member........now if it had been the McLaren shill, George, well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes but I was careful not to offend a new member&#8230;&#8230;..now if it had been the McLaren shill, George, well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <img src='http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/while-rome-burns#comment-3089</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 06:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, you beat me to the response and took the words right out of my modem.

I can't argue with any of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, you beat me to the response and took the words right out of my modem.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t argue with any of it.</p>
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		<title>By: peterg</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/while-rome-burns#comment-3088</link>
		<dc:creator>peterg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 01:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Richard, must respectfully disagree.

GP2 &#38; A1GP chassis are both built to F3000 regs. Dallara tendered for the A1GP contract alongside Lola. Regarding engine output, the Renault sodomo's kick out 600bhp &#38; the Zytecs 500bhp.The respective weight difference between the two chassis is not that great.

Richard said :- "A1GP is at a massive disadvantage for not being an FIA series (it is sanctioned by them but they have no other involvement other than safety) and failing to differentiate itself from the many FIA supported series would be a big mistake' Ummm....Richard one of the reasons GP2 is doing so well is that it is NOT a FIA series, it run &#38; owned by a mate of Briatore's, the FIA have no involvement. The reason the previous F1 support series failed was BECAUSE it was the official FIA F3000 series, Thus it had no real identity or title sponsor or manufacturer involvement.

Richard said :- "The two French drivers that dominated season 1 of A1GP haven</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Richard, must respectfully disagree.</p>
<p>GP2 &amp; A1GP chassis are both built to F3000 regs. Dallara tendered for the A1GP contract alongside Lola. Regarding engine output, the Renault sodomo&#8217;s kick out 600bhp &amp; the Zytecs 500bhp.The respective weight difference between the two chassis is not that great.</p>
<p>Richard said :- &#8220;A1GP is at a massive disadvantage for not being an FIA series (it is sanctioned by them but they have no other involvement other than safety) and failing to differentiate itself from the many FIA supported series would be a big mistake&#8217; Ummm&#8230;.Richard one of the reasons GP2 is doing so well is that it is NOT a FIA series, it run &amp; owned by a mate of Briatore&#8217;s, the FIA have no involvement. The reason the previous F1 support series failed was BECAUSE it was the official FIA F3000 series, Thus it had no real identity or title sponsor or manufacturer involvement.</p>
<p>Richard said :- &#8220;The two French drivers that dominated season 1 of A1GP haven</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Matthias</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/while-rome-burns#comment-3087</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Matthias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to say I disagree about whole idea of A1GP "graduating" drivers to "higher forms of motorsport. Both Europe and the USA already had a long and complex 'ladder' for aspiring drivers to climb. GP2 was specifically designed to be the training ground for F1 hopefuls - the cars drive like F1 cars, have F1-type tyres and fairly powerful engines. The design brief for GP2 was that pole time should be close to a back of the grid F1 time. I'm not sure how close they got to that goal, but the goal is the point - this series is all about testing potential F1 drivers.

A1GP is nothing like GP2 - the cars are heavy and drive heavy according to the drivers. The tyres are hard and the aero much less. This might be excuses, but it is sighted as the reason why several very experienced drivers have struggled to set a good time in an A1GP car while the most sucessful have been young drivers who have come recently from karting or Formula Ford with perhaps only a little F3 experience.

While we can see that Germany's Nico Hulkenberg might have a big future ahead of him, it will be due to how he performs in the more 'establishment' series he drives in from now on, not on the basis of his season 2 A1GP domination. The two french drivers that dominated season 1 of A1GP haven't had much sucess since.

If A1GP has a future (and frankly, I'm amazed season 3 is actually happening), it has to become a show that is all about A1GP racing. They should be have known drivers that are paid to race and it should be able somehow to run at a profit rather than being paid for by young drivers buying drives (as happens in every 'feeder' series). I don't know where the money is going to come from - I'm not even sure where it comes from now - but that should be the goal rather than trying to become yet another meaningless feeder series.

A1GP is at a massive dissadvantage for not being an FIA series (it is sanctioned by them but they have no other involvement other than safety) and failing to differentiate itself from the many FIA supported series would be a big mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to say I disagree about whole idea of A1GP &#8220;graduating&#8221; drivers to &#8220;higher forms of motorsport. Both Europe and the USA already had a long and complex &#8216;ladder&#8217; for aspiring drivers to climb. GP2 was specifically designed to be the training ground for F1 hopefuls - the cars drive like F1 cars, have F1-type tyres and fairly powerful engines. The design brief for GP2 was that pole time should be close to a back of the grid F1 time. I&#8217;m not sure how close they got to that goal, but the goal is the point - this series is all about testing potential F1 drivers.</p>
<p>A1GP is nothing like GP2 - the cars are heavy and drive heavy according to the drivers. The tyres are hard and the aero much less. This might be excuses, but it is sighted as the reason why several very experienced drivers have struggled to set a good time in an A1GP car while the most sucessful have been young drivers who have come recently from karting or Formula Ford with perhaps only a little F3 experience.</p>
<p>While we can see that Germany&#8217;s Nico Hulkenberg might have a big future ahead of him, it will be due to how he performs in the more &#8216;establishment&#8217; series he drives in from now on, not on the basis of his season 2 A1GP domination. The two french drivers that dominated season 1 of A1GP haven&#8217;t had much sucess since.</p>
<p>If A1GP has a future (and frankly, I&#8217;m amazed season 3 is actually happening), it has to become a show that is all about A1GP racing. They should be have known drivers that are paid to race and it should be able somehow to run at a profit rather than being paid for by young drivers buying drives (as happens in every &#8216;feeder&#8217; series). I don&#8217;t know where the money is going to come from - I&#8217;m not even sure where it comes from now - but that should be the goal rather than trying to become yet another meaningless feeder series.</p>
<p>A1GP is at a massive dissadvantage for not being an FIA series (it is sanctioned by them but they have no other involvement other than safety) and failing to differentiate itself from the many FIA supported series would be a big mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/while-rome-burns#comment-3086</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Of course it</description>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/while-rome-burns#comment-3085</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This year it is George. At least that's what Speed is promoting on their website.

Of course it's not all good news, they're taped delayed until Wednesday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This year it is George. At least that&#8217;s what Speed is promoting on their website.</p>
<p>Of course it&#8217;s not all good news, they&#8217;re taped delayed until Wednesday.</p>
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